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	<title>Comments on: Lose the WYSIWYG editor in Joomla</title>
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		<title>By: Ryan Maizel</title>
		<link>http://joomlatips.com/2010/core-tips/lose-the-wysiwyg-editor-in-joomla/comment-page-1#comment-1848</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Maizel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 19:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that going without the WYSIWYG editor is generally the best way to go. I like to give my clients access to change and update pages, but not access to the admin panel.  The problem is, without a WYSIWYG they can&#039;t do this at all, and with it, they invariably mess around with the styles to the point where the look of the text is horribly mangled. What would be great is if someone would create an editor that could be exposed through the front end that would allow the user to edit text - add paragraphs, headings, MAYBE some bold or italics - and nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that going without the WYSIWYG editor is generally the best way to go. I like to give my clients access to change and update pages, but not access to the admin panel.  The problem is, without a WYSIWYG they can&#8217;t do this at all, and with it, they invariably mess around with the styles to the point where the look of the text is horribly mangled. What would be great is if someone would create an editor that could be exposed through the front end that would allow the user to edit text &#8211; add paragraphs, headings, MAYBE some bold or italics &#8211; and nothing else.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Mackinnon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Mackinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 21:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would be great is a WYSIWYG editor that only allows semantic markup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would be great is a WYSIWYG editor that only allows semantic markup.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 19:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both, very valid points.  I suppose it really depends upon the clients you cater to.  In my personal situation, 95% of the sites I hand over are never touched by the clients and they never even know there is a Joomla admin area.  My clients tend to have more static sites that they do not update at much, or at all.  On the rare instance they want info updated, they have me do it for a administrative fee.  
I see your points though for the clients who are more hands on.  It&#039;s just frustrating losing html compliance due to the editor, or screwing up layouts or formatting due to horrific inline editors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both, very valid points.  I suppose it really depends upon the clients you cater to.  In my personal situation, 95% of the sites I hand over are never touched by the clients and they never even know there is a Joomla admin area.  My clients tend to have more static sites that they do not update at much, or at all.  On the rare instance they want info updated, they have me do it for a administrative fee.<br />
I see your points though for the clients who are more hands on.  It&#8217;s just frustrating losing html compliance due to the editor, or screwing up layouts or formatting due to horrific inline editors.</p>
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		<title>By: Gobezu</title>
		<link>http://joomlatips.com/2010/core-tips/lose-the-wysiwyg-editor-in-joomla/comment-page-1#comment-671</link>
		<dc:creator>Gobezu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 03:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm, the editor makes it so much more simple to do it correctly, but of course as everything else you would need to use it correctly
besides, try to hand over the site to customer w/o the editor and you will probably get a hard time explaining why and how
so i believe the best way is to learn from the beginning how to use the editor correctly
but then, there are time you would need to look at the source to get it perfectly and for that they have the view source functionality as well
at last a plug for my favo editor JCE (www.joomlacontenteditor.net)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm, the editor makes it so much more simple to do it correctly, but of course as everything else you would need to use it correctly<br />
besides, try to hand over the site to customer w/o the editor and you will probably get a hard time explaining why and how<br />
so i believe the best way is to learn from the beginning how to use the editor correctly<br />
but then, there are time you would need to look at the source to get it perfectly and for that they have the view source functionality as well<br />
at last a plug for my favo editor JCE (www.joomlacontenteditor.net)</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Bremer</title>
		<link>http://joomlatips.com/2010/core-tips/lose-the-wysiwyg-editor-in-joomla/comment-page-1#comment-669</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Bremer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what we do as developers in many cases, on our own sites, but you can&#039;t expect a client who takes delivery of a site to do this - they need video screencast guides to using WYSIWYG editors, let a lone HTML coding!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what we do as developers in many cases, on our own sites, but you can&#8217;t expect a client who takes delivery of a site to do this &#8211; they need video screencast guides to using WYSIWYG editors, let a lone HTML coding!</p>
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